Podcast interview with Derek “Rock” Botten on learning to let go

Learning to Let Go - Derek "Rock" Botten | Journeys with the No Schedule Man, Ep. 33Derek Botten is a voice-over artist and voice actor who brings to life a wide variety of commercials, videos, voice characterizations, audio books and much more. He brings authenticity, sincerity and a kind and compassionate spirit to every project.

A well-known radio broadcasting talent in Southwestern Ontario, Canada, Derek’s career also includes a 10-year stretch as creator and producer of the “World of Motorcycles Expo” trade show and a variety of other pursuits such as motorcycle trainer and as an announcer at various motorsports events, among other things.

These days, Derek most enjoys his voice work mixed with time cultivating his incredible creative and mechanical artistry by crafting a wide variety of furnishings and home accessories that he and his wife collectively refer to as “Lisa’s Pieces” (some of those items are available for sale online here). He’s been actively learning to let go, and I’ve never seen him happier.

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It might sound cliché that if you do what you love doing, the money will follow. You hear people say that. You know what? It will. Or, you don’t need that money anyway.

– Derek Botten

Learning to let go - Derek Botten skydiving

Derek on a skydive in 2012 (photo from

Derek is an absolute gem of a human being. I treasure his friendship, encouragement, wisdom and kindness well beyond what I feel I could accurately describe. It’s my great wish that everyone should have at least one friend like Derek, and so perhaps that’s why I feel compelled to share his spirit with you.

It’s bothered me somewhat that the very first episode of this podcast (which features Derek) remains the only one where I have deliberately chosen the subject matter ahead of time and then steered the conversation toward that. My only regret about it is that I don’t feel that episode offers anywhere near the full scope of Derek’s vast experience, kind heart, giving nature and deep emotional intelligence. I’ve often wished I could bottle some of the wisdom that Derek has shared with me over the years and pass it along so that it might be of benefit to others. And so with that in mind, it was important to me to celebrate the first anniversary of the No Schedule Man Podcast by asking Derek to return and to have a discussion more about life and the journey and finding contentment and letting go. And that’s exactly what happened.

Why So Happy All of a Sudden?

Having said that, I admit I’m guilty of manipulating this conversation a little bit too. While we started off talking about some of the work that Derek is currently doing as a voice artist, what I really wanted to chip away at and discover was the “why” behind one of my closest friends being as content as I’ve ever seen him. What are the factors that went into finding and cultivating that place? What are some of the challenges that needed to be faced? What are some of the things that we would do differently if we could do them over again, keeping in mind that we would not be who we are today if we had not had the experiences?

I think we’re completely brainwashed. And if I had one piece of advice to give my 20-year-old self, it would be, ‘Don’t be brainwashed. Go with your heart. Do something that you love doing.’

– Derek Botten

Derek Botten with Toto

Derek & his wife, Lisa Brandt, with the band Toto (photo from

This particular episode is very much a conversation. It’s not so much an interview as a philosophical chat between two very close friends. While it goes a little bit deeper than we might have if we were just meeting for breakfast, I do feel that this conversation is representative of so many of the very helpful discussions that we have enjoyed over the years, and I hope that you are able to gain something from it as well and feel free to chime in with your own thoughts on any of the subjects we discussed. You can do that by adding it to the comments, section below.

Highlights from what Derek shared:

  1. The empowering value of learning to let go
  2. Reframing “regret” and appreciating who you are now as the sum of your collective experience
  3. Getting to the cause of something (as opposed to continually treating symptoms) and being mindful of which example or path you’re choosing to follow

We talked about everything from Aerosmith to alcohol, Christmas to contentment and media to mindfulness. It was a real pleasure to dive into these subjects with Derek. As you can likely tell by now, I love him dearly, and I hope that, by sharing this conversation, some of that good feeling flows over to you as well.

Connect with Derek Botten

Derek’s Websites: | “Lisa’s Pieces”
Derek on Social Media:  Twitter | “Lisa’s Pieces” on Facebook

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  • John says:

    Although I do not have a close friend like Derek, he seams like a very talented man. The fact of living in the past will never let you move forward is very important to let go or you will never reach your full potential in your own life.
    Being content with what you do makes you a lot happier with what you are doing. I like this comment by Derek. I try to tell my son when he ask how much a job pays, “find a job you love doing first and the money will come”

    • Kevin says:

      Hi John,
      Thanks for your comments. I love what you’re sharing with your son. I started out in my career that way, but grew restless and then jumped over to the path of what I thought I was “supposed” to do. Now, 20 years later, I’m determined to get back on the track I left a couple of decades ago. I hope your son, along with everyone else, can find something that connects with his heart and gives him a wealth of fulfillment of all kinds.
      Best wishes,

  • Owain says:

    I try not to regret things but sometimes I do. I think it is human nature. We need to move on and not get stuck in the past. That’s easier said than done as I do wallow about with past regrets.

    But I am happy with how I have got to now. I have come along way from the shy young man I once was. I have a loving wife, two beautiful daughters and a home to come back to after work each day. I really couldn’t ask for more..

    • Kevin says:

      Hi Owain,
      I agree: easier said than done when it comes to regret. But we are where we are, and everything that we’ve experienced has led us to where we are now. Still … it’s a challenge not to look back with a sign on certain things.
      It sounds like you’ve got a wonderful group of women around you. That’s wonderful to hear!!!
      Best wishes,

  • Jen says:

    Derek seems like a great man and friend. He certainly has much thoughtfulness and wisdom to share and I’ve enjoyed hearing from him. I do love how he said, “if you do what you love doing, the money will follow”… I resonate with that because I am in such a situation. I’m finally doing something that I enjoy, however monetary value is of little importance at this time because I truly have a passion for it. What an inspiration, I’m happy to have found this. Thank you for sharing.

    • Kevin says:

      Thank you, Jen! It’s wonderful to hear that you’re in such a good place. Wishing you continued good health and fulfillment!
      Best wishes,

  • Patrick says:

    Hey Kevin, Derek and yourself are very special people. I really enjoyed the dialogue. I wish you both the very best.


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