Learning to Love Yourself – Katie Kozlowski, Ep. 40

Podcast interview on learning to love yourself with Katie Kozlowski

Katie Kozlowksi is a spiritual teacher, self realization coach and healer. I was immediately intrigued to talk with Katie when I saw the phrase “Learning to Love Yourself” associated with her website, and the idea of her inviting people to be a part of the “Loving to be Me” Collective.

Self love is something I didn’t discover – or even recognize or consider as an option – until I was in my late 30’s. I’ve since found that this is not uncommon and that, in fact, I caught on to it fairly early relative to most.

This has got to change.

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Katie’s is a powerful story about how so many of us start out so happy and free, how it easy it is to get lost, and the consequences of the unconscious cruelty we inflict on ourselves and others when we’re not in touch with who we really are. And most of us aren’t.

I won’t tell much more of Katie’s story here, because she covers it so well in the conversation you’ll hear if you listen to the episode. But it’s an important lesson and I hope that you’ll listen carefully, and I also hope that, if you have a young woman in your life, that you will share this with them. Young men need to hear this too. Maybe even more so. In fact – just my opinion – we all can do better with understanding what it means to love yourself, and to understand and embrace that others are experiencing their own challenge with the same issue.

Isn’t is a shame that you come here to enjoy your life and you spend the whole time wishing you were someone else because they have things you want.

– Katie Kozlowski

A few key things I took from my time with Katie:

1. You Are Not Your Body – She talks about the difference between your soul and your body, and how her accident (which she describes) jolted her soul and her body back together. It’s a powerful observation

2. Happy Can Look Messy – Listen for how she describes herself as a kid. As we get older, we start putting all sorts of conditions on what it takes to be happy. But happy can be simple, and even messy. The reverse is also true: so many of us put up appearances and seem to look as if we have everything all tidy and put together when, in fact, we’re actually falling apart inside.

3. The Irony of “Playful Transformation” (because it brings you back to the real you) – Listen for why Katie jokes that she “peaked” in Grade 3. She already knew who she was. She just needed to find her again, or “transform” back to who she already used to be (and still was). I believe the same is true for most of us.

In this culture, we don’t know how to love ourselves unconditionally unless it’s from a narcissistic level. We don’t know what it is.

– Katie Kozlowski

Here is the conversation with Katie Kozlowski on The No Schedule Man Podcast: